washer agitates while filling (whirlpool)

by john s
(toronto on canada)

as soon as the washer is commanded to start, it begins to fill as normal,but the agitator action starts immediately




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Hi John,

This seems like a water level control problem to me but if you give me your model number I will see if I can find a wiring diagram. If I could find a wiring diagram, I could tell if there were anymore possibilities.


Thank you,
Shawn/administrator

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Same issue with Whirlpool
by: William

My 10 year old Whirlpool is starting to exhibit the same behavior as described above. It doesn't always occur, however. But it is happening more often - the agitator fires up immediately.
This model number is SM 8280867
Has there been any resolution as to the cause/fix for this? Thanks, Bill


Hi William
by: Shawn/admin

This problem is going to be in the water level control or the tube that connects to the control may be partially clogged. I know it is not completely clogged because the washer will overflow but if it is partially clogged the tube can retain pressure essentially fooling the water level control into thinking the tub is full, metaphorically speaking.

hard water could be contributing?
by: William

Is it possible that hard water is contributing to the problem? My water softener bit the dust a year ago and replacing it is still on my "to do" list. Could hard water have left a deposit in the tube? I'm trying a could of "loads" using white vinegar to see what happens. Thanks, Bill

PS. thanks for removing my email address also

One More Question
by: Shawn/admin

I supposed it could but typically I see hair or grease in the tube. The best thing to do is to take the washer apart and check the tube to see if it is clogged and if not replace the water level control.

One more question when it starts to agitate is the water still entering the tub or is the water not running and it is just agitating without water?

If it is agitating without water then the answer I gave before still stands but if it is running water and agitating at the same time I am not sure. I would need the model number (the one you gave didn?t seem to be correct or at least I couldn?t find info on it). Note that I still believe it is in the water level control but this is not a typical problem so I would like to look at the wiring diagram for you just to be sure so please recheck the model number.


In case you need it this page may help Whirlpool Washer Disassembly

Same Problem
by: Marianne

Washer worked great up until this morning. Put some laundry in and started the cycle and the washer immediately started to agitate....but it is also filling as it should be....just with the agitator running. Model # is WTW57ESVW0....and the washer is only about 17 months old.

RE
by: Shawn

I took a look at your wiring diagrams and my best guess is there is a timer contact stuck but this will be hard to confirm.

Vinegar did the trick for clothes washer
by: Anonymous

I did two empty loads with perhaps 2 cups of vinegar, let it fill, let it sit for a couple of hours, and problem vanished. Apparently it was a hard water issue. I noticed white film in the dish washer also - also removed by placing a bowl of distilled white vinegar in the dish washer.

Same problem with one more twist
by: mcsquid86

My wahser is agitating before the water fill also. But another problem we have is that at the end of the last spin cycle it fills back up with about 2 inches of water then turns off.

Kenmore Agitator starts will filling - shredding cloths
by: MikeC

Hi to all.
I have the same issue as others in this post. Kenmore 110.29822800. Beginning of every cycle starts with agitator running while filling. Few minutes before spin cyle ends, it begins filling again leveing two inchs of water.
Replaced W10187167 Timer and w10104800 Electronic Control. No luck.

The schematic stuffed in the back of the control panel implies the "Load Sense" component processes input from the flow meter and has a timer motor relay. Where and what is the Load Sense component>

The washer has automatic water level control based on load. The entire family hates it. We would love to have our previous 25year old trust analog kenmore back....

Appreciate any assistance.

PS Have a apparently good W10187167 Timer and w10104800 Electronic Control parts if someone needs spares...

Whirpool washer agitates while filling
by: 1luv4niya@sprint.blackberry.net

I have a Whirlpool, Model WTW58ESVW, it has the auto load sensor, which I am starting to hate. When I start a load, it will start to fill and agitate at the same time. I am wondering if you can tell what the problem might be for this. I have only had this machine 1 year, I guess I should have gone back with a regular top load washer, this auto sensing bit might not be worth it. Please help.

Auto-sensing
by: Shawn

I work for a GE dealer so I don?t get updates on the new Whirlpool products but on new GE washers with auto load sensing they start to move the agitator before and when it is filling. So all of this may be normal. See if it says anything about this in your owners manual.

WASHER STARTS B4 FILLING H2O
by: MOODY

NORMALLY VOLTAGE TO THE TIMER IS SUPPLIED BY THE WATER PRESSURE SWITCH.PROBLEM MUST BE HERE.IT IS LETTING THE CURRENT PASS THROUGH TOO EARLY.
GOOD LUCK

1ST APPLIANCE SALES & REPAIRS


Magic Reset of Stuck Load Sense Switch - Saga Continues - Kenmore 800 Agitator starts whilel filling - shredding cloths
by: MikeC

Just an update - Working fine now... I ordered a new load sense switch, oddly called the fabric softener control on the panel.

But while we waited for part to arrive, my college son started a load of cloths on NORMAL cycle and repeatedly raised the lid until the water level was to the maximum. Subsequent loads now works without aigitation while filling and no water refill on final spin cycle.

I might add that prior to my protical son's magical fix, I did verify there was no debries in pressure tube from the value to the load sense switch..... So for now I assume the high water level pressure cleared the switch...case close for now...

same prob here too
by: Anonymous

My Whirlpool washer does the same thing. When I start a load on regular, it starts to fill up and immediately starts to agitate while it is still filling. And then at the end of the cycle, it sprays with water and your clothes are wet!This has never happened before, just recently in the last week, one day it did it. I have only had this washer not even a year. However, today I just discovered that on the super wash cycle, it does not do it. I usually only use that for towels, so I didn't notice it until today.

Agitates too soon
by: Anonymous

I have the same model #11029822800 as MikeC and exact same.problem. Did you ever find a solution?

Just had mine fixed
by: Joe

I have a Whirlpool washer model WTW57ESVW0, which is probably the same washer as some of the Kenmore models since Whirlpool also makes the Kenmore models for Sears. Out of nowhere, my washer started to agitate as soon as the washer is started regardless of which wash cycle was used. This washer is the auto-load sensing model and it normally starts to fill first, agitate slightly in-between filling before it starts the continuous agitation. Only when the handwash wash option (2nd knob from right)(not wash cycle) is used did it not agitate while filling. Another problem it had was it was filling at the end of the spin cycle leaving the washed clothes wet at the end of the wash. This latter problem existed only on the normal wash cycles, which is on the top half of the wash cycle knob, and not on any of the other three wash cycles; Quick Wash, Soak, Pre Wash. After doing some research on the internet I narrowed down the problem to two parts, auto-sensing switch or timer control. I called Whirlpool (800-253-1301) and ordered them, auto-sensing switch (part# W10292584 which is replacement of W10177795 which is discontinued) and timer control (part# W10177827) for $26.30 total at 75% off, plus $8.99 Fedex shipping and $2.12 PA sales tax for a grand total of $37.41. The original part costs were $65.62 and $39.60 respectively. I took the control panel off following the video from http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9QELKlLEZeI and first tried the replacement timer and it made no difference, i.e. it still agitated immediately while filling and it filled at the end of spin cycle but only on the normal wash cycle which is on the top half. The agitation problem exists on all wash cycles except for the handwash option, but the filling problem at the end of spin cycle existed only for the normal wash cycle and not on any of the other 3 wash cycles. Then, I put the old timer back on and tried the replacement auto-sensing switch and that fixed the problem.

Whirlpool WE57ES
by: Anonymous

My washer is doing the same thing as everyone else, aggitating while filling in the beginning and also right before it is due to stop spinning, it fills with water and then shuts off. What a joke!! Sure wish I would have known this washer was a piece of junk. I'm going to try the vinegar thing and see if it's the hard water.Just bought this thing from Lowes' last year!!!

Found a fix, sorta
by: Anonymous

I posted above with the same problem, but being cheap I tried the opening and closing lid thing on a few loads followed by a handwash load and it started working fine. Then started doing it again but only after I lifted the lid and added clothes while filling. Did the whole silly thing over and its working fine again. I never open the lid after I turn the thing on now. Sounds crazy but it works for me.

Cannot open lid with auto-sensing
by: Joe

As I understand it, if you open the lid on the washers with auto-load sensor, it automatically fills the tub to maximum water, so you're wasting money. That's how it is on the Whirlpool washer at least.

It's the auto-load sensor that's causing the problem and easy enough to replace it, so don't be cheap fixing the problem.

You can download the parts documentation from Whirlpool from the link below which shows where the auto-sensing part is located.

http://shared.whirlpoolcorp.com/assets/pdfs/literature/Repair%20Part%20List%20-%20W10222396.pdf

It's the whole piece behind the Fabric Softener dial which is the third dial from the left and it's held in place by a small platic tab without any screws. The auto-sensing part is not covered and it's visible once you have the control panel loose so you can look behind it. My old switch's plastic tab broke off when I was taking it off, but luckily it didn't matter since it was defective. You should be careful when putting the new part back on so the tab doesn't break off like it did on my old part.

I had to do something else before I put the washer back together. I had to tighten the screws (part #18) shown on pages 1 and 2 in the pdf documentation above, because one of them was almost all the way out and one already fell off. Either they came loose because of vibrations or my washer already had a service done prior to us purchasing the home this past June. If it's the latter, then whoever did the service did a crappy job since the control panel wasn't even locked in properly on the right side, i.e. one of the wiggly metal pieces wasn't in place to hold the control panel to the top.

Same problem; fixed it myself
by: Bubbs

Thanks to all for your descriptions of the same problem. I have the Whirlpool WTW57ESVWO with the agitation at start and filling at end of spin. I watched the U-Tube video to access the control panel and check the pressure switch tube for clogs. The tube was clean, and oddly enough after reconnecting the three electical leads I had disconnected to remove the outer shell, my synchronization problem corrected itself (i.e. washer quit agitating at start, and quit filling at end of spin), but I now had a problem with my tub always filling to the max during subsequent washes (i.e. it no longer agitated after partially filling to sense load at the beginning of a wash cycle). I went ahead and ordered the new replacement 'auto load sensing switch' (part #W10292584 that replaces part #10177795) from Whirlpool customer service at 1-866-698-2538. I could only talk them down to giving me a 25% discount on the $65.62 part, so it cost a total of $62.16 ($49.22 + $12.94) with shipping. I just installed it and everything (i.e. auto load sensing works again) works fine now. Note Joe's comment on the mounting tab for the switch. To remove the switch from the back of the control panel, pull back on the tab on the right side of the switch to allow rotation of the switch to the left (or right) by 45 degrees, then pull switch away from panel. Once free from the control panel, remove the switch's rubber sensor tube and two electrical connectors. Reattach the tube and two electrical connectors to the new switch, and insert the new switch into the control panel with the tab 45 degrees off-center. Finally, rotate the switch 45 degrees to align and insert tab to lock in place. Once you have reattached the washer body to the frame, reconnected the three electrical connectors and the control panel per the U-Tube video, your washer should be operating like before. Again, thanks for your threads (especially to Joe) in this blog, you all saved me a service call that would have exceeded the cost of the part I replace on my own. Will keep you updated if there are any changes. v/r, Bubbs

fixed, (maybe)
by: Gerry

It's great not to have to re-invent the wheel! This page took me to the right part at least!

Thought whirlpool would be a good brand as last one lasted some 26 years till the bearings went on motor, of course it went through two motor couplings and a lid switch. But hey for 26 or so years that wasn't bad.

OK, it's running a test load now and I opened the lid open so it filled to max, but that should change with the rinse cycle.

What I did was to either break the darn part or fix it, we'll see. I had it out and apart, bent the wiper springs a bit to better contact the contacts on internal circuit board. I also blew air into the port for the water level sensor tube, lung power, maybe it ruptured the innards maybe not, but at least there is no agitation when filling. Tube down to tub was OK, blew through that as well.

And, no partial fill after final spin!

Next "dry" load will tell for sure.



fixed, (maybe) Follow-Up
by: Gerry

OK, with "dry" load, the beast worked fine.

As the "device" had a bunch of electronics in it Lord knows how it does what it does. But I suspect that some of the electronics senses the pressure of the air in the tube displaced by the water as it rises in the tube. Then at a preset "time" it cycles the agitator, if more water is absorbed into the load, the water level will go down and the pressure sensor will see a drop, so the agitation stops and filling continues to the next try. When no pressure differential is seen or the max pressure is met because of max fill, the "device" allows the timer to proceed with the cycles.

Now that is just my humble opinion. Since we don't use the softener cycle, I have no speculation or theory on how that fits into the scheme of things.

But the bottom line is; with my luck, removing the device, applying slight pressure and vacuum to the device's sample port ( maybe a 2-3 lbs/sq in) and adjustment of the wiper fingers for stronger contact, seemed to have "fixed" it.

Again, thank you for this forum area to share thoughts and solutions.

Gerry

(retired tactical satellite field service technician)

Whirlpool Ultimate Care II Washer
by: Shana

Hi... I am having some really weird issues with my washer. Recently, when I would start a load on Normal, it would start agitating and no water would be coming in, then sometimes I would start a load and it would fill with water, but not stop filling. I would have to turn the timer to make it start agitating. I bought a brand new water fill switch ($94.91) to be exact, and it is still doing the same thing! Today however, I started a load...the water filled like it was suppose to, agitated, and spun, but once it got to the rinse cycle, it started agitating with no water. I bought another timer for it also, but it was a used one.I had the inlet valves tested and they were fine. Can someone please tell me what is wrong with my washer please? Thank you.

Re
by: Shawn/admin

There should be a pressure tube that connects to the water level control. Make sure that tube isn’t clogged, cut or broken. It could cause the type of problems you are having.

Problem Fixed - Cost Nothing
by: Steve in TN

First let me thank everyone who has posted here. This type of blog is PRICELESS! My problem was exactly the same as everyone's... I had a whirlpool that would start agitating immediately while it was filling. Then when it got to the end of it's cycle it would squirt just enough water on the clothes to leave them almost completely saturated. Here's what I did that fixed the problem:

I removed the control panel on top of the machine. It's EASY! Watch a 2 minute video of how to do that here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9QELKlLEZeI.

That enabled me to tilt the control panel up so that I could see the rear of all the switches. I then pulled the 1/2" rubber hose off the back of the auto sensing switch (it's really just the back of the knob that controls the fabric softner selection). I then blew hard through that hose (heard a little gurgling) .

I then removed the switch that the 1/2" hose connected to. I did that by first unplugging the two electrical wires connected to the switch. Then twist the switch 45 degrees (either direction). It will come out easily. I took the switch out in the garage and took my air compressor and blew into the port that the rubber hose connects to (gave it three or four quick bursts of air). Then for good measure, I sprayed electrical contact spray all over the contacts where the two electrical plugs connect.

I then re-installed switch in control panel by doing the "45 degree twist "thing, re-connected rubber hose, and re-connected both electrical plugs. Then clicked control panel back into place on top of the washing machine. The machine worked great!

Once again....THANK YOU TO EVERYONE that posted all the valuable info in the posts above. I know I just saved myself at $125 service call.

Fixed it with a 5 Cent part
by: Pat from FL

Wow I was really worried about having to buy a new pressure switch or timer control,but luckly I have a B.A in electrical engineering and took it upon myself to look at the in side of the auto-sensing switch and you know what, after a year of owning this thing, the switch was still in perfect working order. Tried running it again and it was then I realized that the stupid water level tube really had nothing holding it on there so I stopped the washer and found a small hose clamp. I put the hose clamp on the pressure switch tube and tried running the washer again, worked perfectly. I think that is the root of everyone's problem here, whirlpool saved 3 cents on a part and everyone is out there buying 60 dollar sensors because of it. The tube goes to a PRESSURE sensor, air can't leak out of it at the top or it serves no purpose. That is why some people on here just blow into it and it may or may not fix it, and some people buy a 60 dollar part and it still may or may not work, just make sure the hose is connected and sealed and problem will resolve it's self.


(nuclear electrical maintenance journeyman)

Stupid Whirlpool Appliances
by: Anonymous

My Whirlpool Auto Load Sensor machine started acting up last year right after the warranty was up. It began agitating at the start of a wash cycle, then spraying the clothes sopping wet at the end of the spin cycle. At first, I thought it was a "soapy" build-up, so I started running the extra rinse cycle and after several loads the problem cleared so I returned to one rinse (my water bill was sky-high the month I tried double-rinse). Recently, the problem recurred. I read where someone used vinegar to clear the potential clogs, so I intend to try this. Meanwhile, doesn't Whirlpool's team of engineers have anything to say for themselves?? Maybe the products should be recalled or one free service call should be offered to customers to touble-shoot. I have a Whirlpool wall oven with an interior light that flashes for no reason. I called when the oven was still under warranty (10-years ago) and the repairman couldn't find a reason. I conclude that I will not buy any more Whirlpool appliances.

auto load sensor
by: Pete

I just wanted to add that I had my own problem with the Whirlpool WTW57ESVW0 washer as it began agitating before/while filling, and throwing water in at the end of the spin cycle. Like others on here, I simply order a new auto load sensor (W10292584) from Whirlpool (the little part in the control panel that corresponds to the fabric softener dial). I simply removed the control panel and replaced the part as others have suggested on this forum. The washer works like new. Thanks to all for the info.

Kenmore 80, agitiates while filling
by: Bill

Thanks for all the helpful comments. Had the same problem on our 2 year old Kenmore 80 washer. Washer began agitating during initial fill and sprayed clothes briefly at end of spin cycle.

Incorporated all of the fixes mentioned above by flipping the control panel up and removing the Load Sensor Switch; gently wiped off the circuit board, blew into the switch vacume port, blew down through the tube itself, bent the two prongs out a little more on the rotary knob which placed more tension on the circuit board, and since I didn't have a clamp to use for the vacume tube I cut a 1/4" off the top of it (at switch) and reinserted the tube back onto the vacume port of the Load Sensor Switch which made for a much tighter connection. Reinstalled the Load Sensor Switch and flipped the control panel back down. Turned washer on and everything worked great!

We've ran a couple of loads today with no problems. Thanks for everyones help! We saved lots of $$ and time by not having to call a tech out nor buy a replacement switch for $65. I'm not sure which part of the process fixed it but the whole repair only took 15 minutes and didn't cost us anything! PTL!!!

The fixes listed worked!
by: Lisa

Thank you to everyone who posted their fixes for this problem. I tried all that were suggested and I'm happy to say that my washing machine is fixed. No longer agitates at the beginning of cycle and no more water added at the end of spin. Here is what I did:

1)-removed hose from switch, blew in hose and blew air into switch
2)-spread the metal prongs where wires plugged in to switch.

Not sure what caused the problem initially, but both my husband and I are guilty of opening washer after it had started. Plan to stop doing this which I hope will prevent issue in the future.

Had a repairman scheduled for next week at a cost of $129 for service call, plus parts. I know I saved at least $129, probably more!


Fixed! agitates while filling
by: MasterOfNone

Thanks to all for the advice!
I also followed all the tips.
I unhooked the pressure tubing from the pressure switch, blew out the tube with an air hose and cut off about 1/4" off of the tube. This fixed the washer. (Kenmore 800)

I plan to buy a clamp for the tube in the next few days.

Kenmore 800 series
by: Anonymous

washer agitated while starting to fill and there was no clog in line. Sears replaced a timer that was worn out (after three years?) or defective for 80 bucks. The timer was overheating. Just popped off the top and slipped it in. Wish I had an education in appliances! Never had a repair before on a Kenmore, until this year. Harumph.

it worked
by: Anonymous

blew through the clear hose, took switch off and reconnected...started working...

So I'm under warranty, and Lowes has a repairman coming
by: Anonymous

Bought my Whirlpool with autosensing 10 months ago. So the repairman comes Tuesday. Be interesting to see what he says. I may suggest the autosensing part and the hose, or print out this whole long post; bet he'll know about it.

Thanks - Fixed My Problem, Too
by: Anonymous

Thanks to everyone for their tips. My 2 year old Whirlpool Washer was agitating without water and spraying water at the end just like everyone elses. I took off the switch, blew in the tube as well as the switch, wiped the contacts inside the switch with a Q-tip and reassembled it. Seems to be working correctly again. I am not a big fan of the auto-sensing either, but hopefully it will be many years before I have to purchase another one!

Vinegar did the trick- Thank You!
by: Anonymous

I followed one of the suggestions to use vinegar for this problem. I used about 1-2 quarts and ran the washer with hot water. After a couple more washings (w/out vinegar) it started to run correctly. We almost had a service person come out which would have cost $129 just for the diagnosis. THANK YOU for all the suggestions and especially for the Vinegar Tip!

Thanks Joe!
by: Hou

Joe's solution saved us an $88 repair man bill - we paid $54 for it and found the part on amazon.com


Vinegar works for the dishwasher also
by: Vinegar guy

I'm glad someone was helped by my vinegar suggestion. I've now used it in my dishwasher (just fill a small bowl with vinegar and place it at the bottom of the dishwasher and run the dishwasher). It really cleaned out the inside - everything slides in and out much more smoothly and the dishes and glasses are much cleaner.

We had endless problems with our water softener, and disconnected it, so it appears as if a bit of vinegar treatment once in a while works great.

Thank You!
by: TXSAM

Thanks to all who posted. The fix from Steve in TN, worked!!!( Kenmore 800 pc.of.poo.)

Great Post Guys
by: Anonymous

I had the exact same problem with my 30 month old Whirlpool WTW57ESVW from Lowes. I watched the Youtube video on how to access the controls, then followed the great directions on how to remove the load sensing switch (pull back on tab and rotate 45 deg.). I blew into the tube, then shot some air into the back of the switch where the tube connects and the problem dissapeared. I think I might replace the switch just to be on the safe side. Thanks!

Made in China
by: Chuck

Tried all these things, replaced timer to no avail. Blew in hose and port on switch. Popped switch apart and bent up the 2 stationary contacs of the internal switch of atc/ls and works like a charm. Just part of the throw away culture we live in. Just my 2 cents and a few hours wasted. Last Maytag machine no better, balance ring was junk and machine wanted to walk out of the room all the time.

Same problem...Thanks for the fix!
by: Anonymous

I had the same problem as everyone else...agitation started while filling, and the tub re-filling at the end...
I took the control panel apart, blew in hose, and pulled out the switches and simple blew them out as well. I put it all back together, and for some reason, it works like a charm! Thanks everyone for saving me time and money! I love forums like these!!!

Fixed mine, thanks guys
by: Anonymous

Fixed mine, took the fabric dial off, and the sensor out, blew out the hose, and poured some vinegar down it. Cut off the hose a quarter inch, sprayed some silicone spray in the sensor and then blew it out, put it back together and it works perfect.
Thanks all for posting this fix, it took longer to find this page than it took to fix the washer.
:-) I am a happy camper, my wife thinks I am brilliant.

Agitates while water is filling...
by: Anonymous

I fixed mine by snugging a zip tie around hose(where it mounts onto fitting) to make the connection air tight. That fixed it instantly.

I think that is the main problem most of you are experiencing. You need a hose clamp or zip tie to make an air-tight seal around the connection.

Please, try that before purchasing a replacement part.

Hope it helps you with the dread washing machine snafu.

Fixed at NO COST!!
by: Joe C.

I own a whirlpool washer and was experiencing the same problem. The agitator would spin as the water loaded and would spray with water after the spin cycle. I followed the you tube video on how to open the top panel. I then removed the power supply cables, disconnected the hose and electrical connectors to the sensor and then removed the sensor from the panel.

The hose was clear but I blew air into it anyway. I then blew air into the nipple on the sensor and the pins of all the connectors. I re-attached all the connectors, the hose and closed the panel.
I ran a regular cycle and the problem was FIXED!!

Thank you for this very informative and detailed post. It saved me an expensive service call!!

Kenmore 800
by: Anonymous

disconnect the switch. Blow the tube out. Reconnect tube and zip tie down tight. Reconnect assembly. washer works perfect now. Wish I had found this before buying the W# 10104800. At least the info is well documented here to save a service call. Thanks for the posts.

repair above worked
by: Anonymous

Above repair worked for us.
Watch youtube video, unplug electric from wall, lift control panel as on video, remove fabric knob, remove sensor unit (quarter turn), disconnect electrical connectors, pull tube off, blow through tube and unit where tube was connected, cut end off tube (about a quarter inch, the section that was on the unit), push the tube back on the sensor unit, clean electrical contacts (we used rubbing alcohol and Q-tips), reconnect electrical connectors to sensor unit, place unit back in panel with a quarter turn, place fabric knob back on unit, replace clips on flipped up control panel (the hook ends of clips hook into an opening on the bottom of the raised control panel on each side, may need pliers to do that), lower control panel watching to catch rear hooks and push clips down into the holes, replug electric to the wall, run washer as normal.
Washer works as normal. This saved us an unneeded repair visit and an unnecessary purchase.
Just a note: it seems that maybe blowing through that tube and cutting it to get a tighter connection may be all that is needed. We cleaned the contacts just because we had it opened.

washer agitates while filling with water.
by: Anonymous

My whirlpool was doing the same exact thing and it was the tempeture switch which on mine happen to be the "no softner added/softner added" knob. it has a plastic tube atached to it. my washer was agitating while filling and this $65 dollar part fixed the problem. hope this helps.

First Remedy BEFORE Purchasing Replacement Parts
by: Miki

Hi, folks. Please try lifting the lid until the tub fills to capacity BEFORE you purchase replacement parts. This situation (washer agitating while it fills) has happened to me twice, and both times it was remedied by allowing the washer to fill to capacity and go through its full cycle. I suppose doing so washed away whatever debris was interfering with the water level sensor. I got this idea from this very site, scrolling through to the contributor whose son tried this same remedy. So glad to have found this site. Thanks for saving me some money!

Great advice!
by: Anonymous

Thanks so much for the tip! I cleared the hose out, and no more agitating while filling!

easy, but not cheap fix
by: ALPA_CHINO

Yes, I was able to fix it by replacing the timer which is the "fabric softner/No fabric softner" knob. I cost $65 and only took a few minutes to replace. you can find videos on youtube on how to remove the control panel.

same problem with whirlpool
by: Anonymous

washer worked fine all day, after washing a load of muddy clothes the clothes were still really wet after cycle was complete. went to wash them again and washer immediatally started agitating and filling with water at same time. it normally doesnt agitate until full. at the end of the cycle the clothes were again very wet and water was holding in bottom of tub.

Fixed for now, hope it stays fixed
by: Relieved (for now)

I have the same type of Whirpool washer as described here. Agitated before and while filling with water, at the end of the spin cycle, it would happily spray water. I read all of the posts here and sensed a solution without repairman to my problem on a relatively late model washer. First, I put a zip tie on the hose that connects to the sensor on the back of the soft water selector (see the other posts on the You Tube video about how to do it and where it is located). That did not fix my problem. But what DID fix it was pulling the hose off of the sensor and blowing into it like taking a test for drugs at work. I felt something go pop, which must have been a clog either in the hose or where it connects at the other end inside the washer. Plugged the hose back into the sensor, and I'll be darned, miracles do happen, it now works. For how long, I don't know. But it works. Seeing all of these posts here that describe the same problem makes me think much of the problem is with the hose clogging, probably down below where it connects somewhere. I am upset that Whirlpool hasn't come to this site and offered their view of the situation as a customer service. If they read this, shame on you, Whirlpool. We are the salt of the Earth here trying to make a living. Rich people wouldn't be posting here, they'd just order a new and obviously better product costing three or four times as much and think nothing of it. I want all who read this to write Whirlpool and copy and past my post, if nothing else, in your e-mail. Thanks. And good luck.

THANK YOU!!!!!!
by: Kristi

Thank you, Thank you, Thank you!!!!! Followed instructions on here and put a clamp on hose. So far so good! This mama of 5 (almost 6) is one happy lady!

vinegar works!
by: Anonymous

Thank you for the the vinegar tip. It actually fixed my washer! My Kenmore longer agitates while filling and the water filling after the spin stopped also.
We replaced the timer 6 months ago and it started acting up again. Glad I read before ordering another timer.


Fixed so far
by: Marilyn

I had the same problem as everyone else, Maytag just over two years old. I tried the easy fix of running an empty load first, seems to have worked so far. Thanks for the advice!

Agitated Myself
by: Anonymous

Same problem with Kenmore 800 model. I guess i will be taking stuff apart and trying to fix the tube and hope that the switch will reset itself. Certainly dont want to spend $94 for a new switch or timer or whatever it is fot a 2 year old unit.

What is alarming is the number of people with the same problem for a unit that is between 1-2 years old. Really Whirlpool/Kenmore??? And no one from them to even address the problem?

I guess i know what brand i will NOT be buying for my next appliance.

TWO ABOVE PROBLEMS FIXED
by: Anonymous

HAVE A WHIRLPOOL WASHER, SAME TWO PROBLEMS FIXED, BLEW COMPRESSED AIR FROM CAN IN SWITCH AND TOOK CLEAR TUBE OFF AND BLEW IN IT OFF BACK OF SWITCH. BOTH PROBLEMS SOLVED, WATCH THE YOU TUBE VIDEO ABOVE HOW TO GET TO THE SWITCH. YOU DO NOT HAVE TO REMOVE THE SWITCH. A 5 MINUTE FIX. THANKS A MILLION.

Do Not Replace Anything!!
by: Blew it

I opened the panel - pulled off the clear hose - Blew into it - and it is working fine now.


Whirlpool Washer agitates while filling
by: Mikester

Thank you for all the awesome information. I tried all the tricks to resolve the issue to no avail. I ordered a new part for about $80 shipped and that did the trick!!!

Our washer is about 3 years old. What a shame for this issue to be so common place. The water sensor/temp is faulty or something else is causing it to prematurely fail. The new part seemed slightly different and beefier. Hopefully it is an upgrade from the original.

not fixed YET...
by: East Moline IL

Same problem... last load had to be re-spun because it was too wet. next load the washer started to agitate as it was filling... Saw video on how to get to the sensor parts. unconnected all, blew on them reconnected all. put back together, ran empty load with vinegar, not fixed. :-( going to get a can of compressed air to try to blow into the sensor, and will also try to clamp the hose on tighter. can not afford to have service call of $60 just to show up and then $10 for each 15 mins and then a part... I am very discouraged that there are as many other people that have had the same issue and Whirlpool has not had a recall or anything... I sent them a message earlier today on this matter and sent them the link to this site! I will fix it!!! will let you know later!!

See reply from Steve in TN- his solution works!
by: Anonymous

We had the exact same problem as everyone else. We have a Kenmore 800. Tip to opening the control panel, take a putty knife under the seams in the front & it will "pop" a clip to open it. Then do as Steve suggests above - blow out hose & circuit thingy attached to the fabric softener knob. We did that & put it back together & it worked! THANKS STEVE!!

no cost repair!
by: Toby

We have a Whirlpool WTW57ESVW1 bought in 2010 that occasionally left water at the end of a cycle then a couple of days ago immediately started agitating while filling. Found this site and read thru the thread. On this model, the sensor is in the left most switch (water temp). A good reference is www.searspartsdirect.com and search for your model number. Anyway, I removed the switch, blew out the plastic tube, blew some compressed air in the port on the back of the switch, sprayed a little contact cleaner on the electical connectors, reassembled and the washer works fine now. Thanks for saving me $60 (the price for the part from Amazon).

$0.05 Fix
by: Team Zip Tie

I was having the same problems when I had the timer and switch/water-fill sensor professionally replaced while this washer was under warranty. A year later the same problem returned. I ordered the two parts and replaced both and found that it was indeed the switch sensor. For the third time, it started acting up again and I couldn't afford to have the switch sensor replaced again. I found this thread and decided to rush home during my lunch break and give the ole zip-tie a try. I blew on the hose and trimmed it for good measure and put a tiny zip-tie on the hose. Washer started like it was supposed to and hasn't had a problem. The zip-tie I used came out of a pack of 100 that I bought from Lowe's for $4.95 I really think that people are just getting lucky when reattaching the hose and that is why the more expensive fixes seem to be working, but in reality the hose just needs to have a better seal to the switch sensor and be clamped in place.

GO TEAM ZIP-TIE!!!!

And thank you to those that decided to share your wisdom.

Free fix?
by: Anonymous

Hi,

Thanks to all who have contributed...I had the same problem and fixed it by simply removing the pressure hose from the sensor and blowing in to it. That must have dislodged any debris and it works now!

YAY FREE FIXES!

This video also helped demonstrate how to get to the part.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9QELKlLEZeI

Same problem / Quick Fix
by: Anonymous

My 3yr old Washer model WTW57ESVW0 had same problem agitaiting before tub filled and shooting water in at end of spin cycle. I removed panel and cleaned tube attached to fabric softner dial.
Seems to be ok now. Also make sure unit is as level as possible.
Thanks

kenmore 800
by: Anonymous

My Kenmore 800 was doing the same thing. Agitating at the beginning of cycle. Something told me to google repairs. Thankful I found this site. I too have saved on repair cost. I followed the steps posted and its working just fine now. If I can do these steps anybody can. I took the control panel off removed the tube behind fabric softener panel blew into it, cut it 1/4 in and replaced panel. Voila it works.

Stopped air leak at hose fitting
by: G

Thanks for all the tips in this informative blog. I fixed ours by blowing the hose free of obstructions and wrapping a piece of wire two loops around the hose at the hose fitting, then twisting the wire tight with a pair of needle nose pliers. Just another alternative to the hose clamp or zip tie used by other posters. The hose is for sure less likely to leak any air when it is secured this way. The first few loads worked well. Let's hope it stays that way... BTW, I replaced the timer a few weeks ago and the washer worked better for a short time, but it was not the main problem. I found a refurbished timer for $37. Shop around if you want cheap parts.

whirlpool washer agitates while filling
by: stan

my whilrpool washer began the agitation thing while filling with water and would begin spraying water at end of rinse cycle. removed top by shawns directions, dislocated the sensor tube blew through it several times (don't know if the fabric softener dispenser had anything to do with the problem but it was really a mess; so cleaned). that fixed my washer. probably the tube.

filling problem
by: Anonymous

I had a similar problem and it over flowed because the float was no longer working correctly

Fixed for a few weeks....then part needed to be replaced
by: Anonymous

Well,

The blowing in the tube fixed it for a few weeks, and then it failed again. It also had a new problem; it wouldn't fill with water. It would only spin and drain.

I just replaced the part and it's good to go.

Thank you!
by: Nate

Thanks for posting everyone, I popped the panel, blew out the hose and fitting(used keyboard pressurized air for the unit), got a small hose clamp and wd-40'd the connections. Remember to pull the tab before you twist to take the little black electrical unit off, I just twisted mine and the tab broke easily. Fixed it easily by placing two screws along the same outer edge on one side of the unit. The

Thanks again! It started up properly and I expect it to do the entire cycle right!

simple fix
by: Anonymous

Took off sensor, took sensor apart careful not to break. cut 1/4 off end of hose for tighter fit. re-connected and worked.

Pressure Switch W10292584
by: Anonymous

I ordered this part as a replacement for W10177795 but the wiring connections did not fit.

Whirlpool WTW57ESVW0 WASHER
by: Jerry

I know that the problem is the tube but I can not find out how to disassemble the case top and back. disassemble instructions for Whirlpool washers according to the troubleshooting guide says to remove 2 end cap screws below the panel. Mine does not have any screws here and none on back but has a lot of clips. I found the tube with my hand but can not check it or clean it out without taking off back panel and top assembly. My mother in law has had same problem with her washer and this tube was the culprit. I workwith grease a lot so Im willing to bet that there is some greas in the tube haha

How to remove control panel
by: Steve in TN

Watch a 2 minute video of how to do that here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9QELKlLEZeI.

THANK YOU, STEVE!!!
by: Nicole in MS

I did exactly what you said to do, and it worked LIKE A CHARM!!!!

Thank you so so much!

Thanks Pat from FL
by: Anonymous

My mom had the same problem with her Whirlpool: agitating while filling with water. Took the thing apart and fixed with two small zip ties on either end of the silicone tubing (seals the system): one coming off the "fabric softener select switch" and the other at the distal end of the tubing where it connects to the tub. Two small zip ties and I did not buy another part. Try it before spending the money on a sensor! Or a service call... Or a new machine. Minor design flaw to a decent machine.

Pat from TX

Pat on the back for folks posting information
by: Anonymous

You Guys are great for making the effort to post your findings for this problem. It appears that I am fixed for at least the time being (water added at end of spin cycle Whirlpool WTW58ESVW1). This is the way information on the internet should work and you may have just saved me a lot of money and aggravation. Good on Ya!

An easier solution
by: Phids

This happened to our washer a few months ago and I fixed it without opening the thing up. The agitator would run right away before it was filled with water, and it would leave the clothes overly wet when it was all finished. The machine was out of sync and I needed to figure out how to get it back in sync. To do this, I believe I turned it to the "Handwash" option, which fills the washer with water without any agitation. When it was full, I then switched the dial over the normal wash, and the agitator started moving. This effectively got the washer back in sync and returned it to normal, and I haven't had any problems since.

same problem
by: Anonymous

had the same problem with kenmore washer 110-29822800 unpluged machine pluged it back in and it has been working fine since

I fixed it!
by: Recent widow

OMG! You guys rock...my washer was doing exactly that...it was agitating before and during filling...and then on the final spin just before shutting down it would fill about 2 inches. I followed the video to pry off the cover, disconnected the tube...blew into it...put it back, closed the cover, plugged it in and presto...it works...simple as that! My husband use to do all of that kind of stuff but now I have to...thanks to the internet (and you guys, of course) I now can fix my washer myself,... change the oil in the snow blower, replace the spark plug in my weed eater...Thank you, thank you, thank you.
A very greatful woman.

Thank you!
by: Anonymous

Read all of the comments. Same problem as others, agitation when putting on and wet clothes at the end. Watched you tube video to open top. Removed hose from switch, blew through it, removed switch, blew into that too, cut off 1/4 inch from hose and zip tied to switch. Re-installed switch and he works perfectly. 30 minutes reading, 15 minute fix. Free. Thanks to all.

Worked for me!
by: Anonymous

Worked for me too...blew out hose and clamped it! Thanks so much, didn't have time to deal with repairman!!!

Update
by: Anonymous

Refer to comment two above this one. Fix lasted for about a month and then it happened again. This time I blew out the hose, and also the hose input on the part. I also stuck a pin in to the hole on the hose input on the part. FATAL ERROR, I must have pierced a membrane. That killed the part, and nothing happened on any cycle that required water. Bought a new part on Amazon for $45 and now it works perfectly.

washer agitates while filling (whirlpool)
by: Anonymous

Just fix the problems everybody was describing.
Called the guy who sold me the used washer about the problem, he said it's the timer and will take care of it. Well, that was a week ago and he's not answering phone call. That was a blessing in disguise, it gives me time to research and found this forum.
I decided to see if blowing into the tube and the sensor and put a tie wrap on the tube(I tried the clamp but it won't fit the space) but that didn't work. So before I buy the switch I took the switch off, unpluged the connectors and this time I used compressed air to blow into the tube and sensor opening, took the back cover off the switch and cleaned the contacts with alcohol(it has a greenish oily stuff), bend the two stationary contacts slightly and put it all back together, I cut 1/4 inch off the top of the tube and put a tie wrap on it. It works as it should now.
Hope this will help some one!

Get Mad
by: Connie White

I kept running it different ways all day & googling. & reading about the fabric softener & temperature buttons I just finally hauled off & HIT my open hand on the FABIC SOFTENER button. & now it works fine. Wires were probably just stuck. Thank you GOD.

The Fix On This Site Works
by: Bill

I bought a Whirpool washer ( model WTW57ESVW1) from Lowes in 2009. I was about to make my 4th service call for the problem as described here ( agitating when it starts to fill and water left in the tub after the final spin).

I even contacted Whirpool which was a complete waste of time. They have a design problem and do not want to admit to it.

Fortunately, I bought an extended service plan through October 2014. However, I was fed up with experiencing the same problem for the 4th time and knew it was going to happen again at some point after the warranty expired. Thus, leading to my search on the internet.

I unplugged the washer, opened the panel as instructed and easily saw the plastic tube. I pulled it off, blew compressed air through it and the opening in the sensor. I then wrapped a small, very small plastic tie around the hose and
the sensor.

I started the wash cycle. No agitation at start up and no water in the tub after the final spin.

UNBELIEVABLE.

My thanks to all who spent the time to contribute.

I have again become a hero and champion in my wife's eyes.

I whole heartily agree with a comment I read earlier that this is what part of the internet should be all about. Exchange knowledge and information with others.

Whirlpool
by: Anonymous

175.00 for new timer when it was the sensor. Took the sensor out...blew it out with compressor and boom. It's working. Was agitating while filling and not spinning water out. Thanks to this site I'm running again!

Whirlpool
by: Anonymous

175.00 for new timer when it was the sensor. Took the sensor out...blew it out with compressor and boom. It's working. Was agitating while filling and not spinning water out. Thanks to this site I'm running again!

Kenmore 800 110.29822800
by: BO

same problem as others noted. standard ops is to start to fill , then agitates a little to stir up detergent, then fills to correct level..
Recently started to agitate immediately in a dry tub. I had previously replaced the water level sensor(2011) .
I disconnected the power to the sensor and turned it on, there was nothing..so i removed the sensor and rapped it a couple times in my palm .. blew into the air hole . works fine again ..
saved $80 .. on the part

Kenmore 800(11029822800) agitates while filling and puts water in at the end of the regular run cycle.
by: Jim from a small town

Washer was confused when the lid was opened after starting the cycle. I found the load level pressure bubble on the side of the washer tub(need to remove washer sides)that sends pressure signal to switch was full of water effecting correct signal. Unhooked tubing and allowed water to drain from bubble into bottom of tub, make sure reassembly of tubing is in place with bubble empty(no water in bubble for proper signal to pressure switch). Videos are on youtube for washer disassembly and tips for troubleshooting. Washer runs like a champ again, no money needed. HOORAY!!!

Lifesaver
by: Greg

Thanks much! Can't believe how easy the fix is!

It works
by: Joe

Just wanted to re-confirm to everyone that the fixes listed here work. Blew into the tube and the part it connects too and all works again. But becareful when taking the black part off the control panel as I snapped the plastic but I don't change my water temperature often so shouldn't be an issue.

Here's something more to think about.
by: Ron

I noticed a few of the commenters showed their discontent of Whirlpool. That you won't buy any other product from them again. Guess what? they have the last laugh because they make all the machines, they just put "Kenmore" name on the machine, if it's their day. As well, the government has new laws on how much a machines eviromental footprint can be used. I'm sure a few of you took advantage of these re-bates, when you bought a new machine will now your paying the price. But at less their is some smart people who is using the Web to educate yourselves, and I'm very proud of you! But there is no big difference to these machines than your cars. They are getting more complecated all thanks to Uncle Sam. And of course if these companies play by Uncle SAMs rules, then they are not subject to recalling the faulty products. So when Uncle Sam is suppose to be protecting you, they are really protecting big corporations, from you. I will tell you if you think this is bad, you should see how things work in other countries they are worse.

No parts needed.. easy fix!
by: Anonymous

Ordered a new timer, thinking it was the problem.. Had it in my hand but decided to search the internet before switching the timer out.

The pressure sensing tube going to the Auto Load Sensing Switch p/n W1017795 is where the problem was.. actually, the switch is fine. Cut 3/8" off end of tube and re installed.

Because of some readers comments, I also opened the switch and bent up the 2 contacts a little.

Put together and works fine. Added a plastic wire zip-tie to the tube to secure it.

Now I have a new timer that will just sit in a box. Since I bought it a while ago so I doubt I can return it.

With new-er part, starting to act up again
by: Anonymous

I went ahead and replaced the pressure switch about a year ago and it's starting to have the same problem.

So far, disconnecting the electrical connection to the switch and reconnecting it is fixing it.

Doesn't stop agitating
by: Jim

Whirlpool washer WTW57ESVW0 agitates while filling. Can you tell what the problem is and how
To
Fix it.

Whirlpool agitates while filling, leaves water behind
by: Rich the engineer

Our 4 year old Whirlpool WTW57ESVW1 started leaving water at the end of the cycle about 6 months ago. First we thought it was the cycle, then too viscous fabric softener. The problem was intermittent. Then we noticed that if the agitator started immediately there would be water left behind at the end of the cycle. 3 months ago I blew out the hose and the port on the water temp switch. Worked OK for 1 month. Then I blew out the hose and disassembled the switch. I cleaned the greenish-yellow gunk (probably dielectric grease) off the wipers and the contact area on the pc board. I also very gently bent one of the wipers that appear to not be making full contact, They are very delicate, thought that the grease might prevent good contact. Gently blew out the “port”. Worked OK for 2 months. I just blew out the hose this time. If it happens again, I will disassemble the washer to see if there is a problem at the other end of the hose. One word of caution, the WTW57ESVW1 and WTW57ESVW0 are different and take different parts.

Agitating without water
by: wenha

This blog has saved me a ton of time and trouble. It appears that the pressure tube, for whatever reason, creates a vapor lock that blocks the water level sensor on part W10177795, behind the softener switch. Unplug the electrical outlet and flip the control panel up. There are a spring clips hidden on underneath both ends side of the control panel. Use a long thin screw driver to slip under the control module and push the spring clips. Pull the control panel up while doing this. Find part W10177795 behind the softener switch. Remove the electrical connection and tube. With can air, plow the part out. With your mouth, blow the tube as hard as you can for about 5 seconds. Put everything back together and it should be fine. If you want to take the part out to inspect it, take the electrical connections and tube off, pull off the knob in the front of the unit. Unclip the thin clip on the right side. Then gently remove the part turning slightly to either side and pull out. Hope this was helpful to you and good luck.

A Million thanx for saving me $$ NEW
by: steel-toed gloves

I GOOGLE searched my whirlpool washer & the problem I was having & this blog popped up.
Great coverage for the video address to open my washer up & a good fix on the agitation while filling. It also started filling with rinse water right after the final rinse cycle. Not too much water though.
Followed the solution steps & the video. My problem is fixed. Thanx again.

Thanks... NEW
by: Rob C.

I pulled off the hose and snipped off a quarter inch. I blew the hose a few times and put it back on the post with a Zip tie and it was fixed. I also put in a new clutch assembly which probably wasn't a necessity but easy enough, it was half worn out and slipping. Many thanks for the help.

replaced the part NEW
by: Rich the engineer

After going through the remove switch, blow out the hose, etc. routine several times on our Whirlpool WTW57ESVW1 – it would work for about a month and then start agitating on fill – I narrowed it down to either the contacts inside the switch or the pressure sensor in the switch. I replaced the switch. I noticed that the old switch was a W10248240 rev F and the new switch was a rev G. Hopefully this fix will last. Also I purchased the switch from the largest on line retailer for about $57 but arrived improperly packaged and damaged. Returned it and received a second one in worse condition. Ultimately bought one off eBay for about the same price.

reset NEW
by: papaAnonymous

agitat and filling wait for agitat to stop press stop turn all the way back to normal then start should be just filling to level then it should agitat allset

Rinse cycle Agitate when water level is 1/4 filled NEW
by: Penney

need help big time Im terrible broke after buying New washer and warentee ran out 2 days ago no joke cat urinated on the nobs ALL NOBS (switches) washer now when it goes into rinse mode starts agitating when it is 1/4 way filled it agitates 3-4 times slow then fast for about 20 seconds then stops until it fills to proper water level . it also turns the drum when first filling for wash too and starts to spins while water is being drained for few seconds then stops til it completely emptied is this the water level switch needing replaced ? do you think it will dry out and stop this ? need help bigtime i glued a pond liner over the top of my washer now so cat can not do it again.

Kenmore front load NEW
by: Don Litzenberger

Starts to agitate, but doesn't add water, then the next cycle it adds water and washes normal till the end, it spins, then leaves water in the button when it's done. Would be the tube plugged or the drain to the pump pluged

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